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As reported on Prince Law Office's Blog, ATF has released a new letter communicating how one is supposed to measure the overall length of a firearm equipped with a stabilizing brace.

Enter your email address to follow this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. If you have an AR pistol with an overall length greater than 26 inches it is not consider concealable for the purpose of the “AOW” definition by ATF. If the overall length was less than 26 inches, and a foregrip were added, it would be classified as an AOW. The Calico was originally designed and made to be fired with one hand, and still could be, despite the addition of a foregrip. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. Not ever. Use our advertising yard signs to get your message out. The ATF states “Such a measurement would be problematic because the firearm could avoid classification as an “AOW” yet retain concealability and remain fully functional. Based on the letter, ATF is taking the position that because a stabilizing brace is not an integral part of the firearm, it is not relevant to the overall length measurement. Have a great day. If you have any suggestions, ideas, or comments.

Length of Pull, or LOP, is the straight line distance measured from the middle of the face of the trigger to the end of the gun’s stock or brace in it’s longest configuration. He hosts The Legal Brief, a show dedicated to crushing the various myths and misinformation around various areas of the gun world.

The term “any other weapon” is defined to include.

LOP  would apply to a gunstock. What am i missing? Highlights of LEGAL BRIEF Discussion of Barrel Length and Firearm Overall Length.

If you are on a personal connection, like at home, you can run an anti-virus scan on your device to make sure it is not infected with malware. Definition of pistol is designed to be used one handed. Would really like to get these things reliable with the 7in tube, really like the gear head tail hook brace but it uses a proprietary extension so can't use the Armalite extension. Required fields are marked *. However, that doesn't mean ATF could not prevail in a different court.

Last Friday, Prince Law Office Blog reported that ATF released a new letter addressing how you are suppose to measure an overall length of a firearm equipped with a stabilizing brace. Such a measurement would be problematic because the firearm could avoid classification as an “AOW,” yet retain the conceivability and remain fully functional. Another way to prevent getting this page in the future is to use Privacy Pass. That might be the "safest" route. This has never been talked about, from ATF, since. The Ultimate Firearms Destination for the Gun Lifestyle, © 2020 Recoil Magazine As a result, the defense argued that Wright had no reasonable way of knowing about the 13.5-inch length of pull limit. How can you have a LOP on a pistol? ATF Clarifies How to Properly Measure The Length Of An AR Pistol. Such a measurement would be problematic because the firearm could avoid classification as an “AOW,” yet retain the conceivability and remain fully functional. That the “stabilizing brace” is an accessory to the firearm and not integral to the AR pistol. how to measure overall length of ar pistol.

This argument ignores the definition's requirement that the weapon be capable of being held with one hand at the time it was originally designed and made. Completing the CAPTCHA proves you are a human and gives you temporary access to the web property. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. Click here to get IMMEDIATE ACCESS to a digital PDF of this target pack. The stock is therefore an essential element in the statutory definition. Your email address will not be published. If you enjoyed this post, hit that like button, subscribe, and tag a friend. As I get occasional visits from LEO for frightening the neighbors, loud explosions, etc don't want to run afoul on this point if I can help it. That letter pertains to that individual - that's what we've been warned about for a decade now...   "One letter to an individual doesn't mean it's okay FOR YOU to do..."  Remember all that garbage?

But the overall length already establishes them as Firearms and not pistols based on ATF’s definition of a Firearm. The ATF has historically considered overall length of 26 inches the breaking point for concealability. Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. Length of Pull, or LOP, is the straight line distance measured from the middle of the face of the trigger to the end of the gun’s stock or brace in it’s longest configuration. His Defense attorney (court appointed) measured his gun this way, the correct way.

That's the ATF position "to that individual." I served six years in the Marines Corps as an 0311. If it has an overall length greater than 26 inches, it could remove it from those class of firearms, again, depending on their characteristics. For this particular example, if the pistol has an overall length greater than 26 inches, it is not generally considered concealable for the purposes of the AOW definition, although ATF has stated in letters that if there was evidence the firearm were concealed by a person, it could still be considered an AOW.